00:35:35 Chris Freeland: A couple of quick notes for everyone - Captions are available for today’s session, use the Live Transcripts feature to turn them on.
00:36:18 Chris Freeland: We are recording today’s discussion. All registrants will get an e-mail with a link to the recording and other information shared throughout today’s session.
00:38:52 Jennie Rose Halperin: @Leslie – yes! It will be recorded and shared
00:50:10 Chris Freeland: We’ve curated a list of related readings, which will also be included in session followup: • POV on PBS - amdoc.org (or) https://www.pbs.org/pov/

• Lear, C. (2022). Controlled Digital Lending of Video Resources: Ensuring the Provision of Streaming Access to Videos for Pedagogical Purposes in Academic Libraries. Journal of Copyright in Education &Amp; Librarianship, 5(1). https://doi.org/10.17161/jcel.v5i1.14807

• Berkeley E-Reserves: https://news.lib.berkeley.edu/e-reserves

• The Former Netflix DVD Library is a treasure we’ll never see again https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/netflix/netflix-dvd-service-plan-subscribers-discontinued-closing/

• Video Trust: https://www.videotrust.org/

• Pushing back against Confidentiality and nondisclosure agreements: https://sparcopen.org/our-work/big-deal-knowledge-base/confidentiality-clauses-and-ndas/

• POV’s Free Lending Library for Screenings, The Community Network - https://communitynetwork.amdoc.org/
00:53:43 Eden Murray-Black: the last link doesn't work
00:54:16 Tihomir Selak: https://communitynetwork.amdoc.org/
00:55:07 Eden Murray-Black: thanks much
01:01:25 Ally Flynn: DSL's purchased directly from Film-makers?
01:03:49 lorraine wochna: then we get into hosting issues….
01:05:40 Vladimir Kuparinen: Could you leverage another country's Public Lending Right approach - but when PLR is done not by a public library, but by volunteers, who'd copy books / eBooks FOR PRIVATE USE = fair dealing exempted from copyright? Like in TRANSKRIBUS Coop: students copy an average 400 pages- books by smartphone in 10 minutes https://readcoop.eu/transkribus/public-models/
01:05:53 Ally Flynn: Indeed, luckily where I am we have a hosting option.
01:10:05 Vladimir Kuparinen: In PLR modela authors get compensation from each act of book borrowing. Now in my Finland: 0,26 cents from each eBook / paper book lent by a library. What if a readers' community leverages PLR, not a library, with royalty micropayment via PERSONAL QR-code?
01:10:44 Theresa Arndt: There are some vendors that will host for institutions/libraries, but you have to OWN or have clear rights the item, e.g., https://alexanderstreet.com/products/media-hosting-service
01:11:05 lorraine wochna: makes me think about NJVID https://www.njvid.net/showcollection.php?pid=njcore:21538 -
01:12:03 Jody Bailey: I think it's important to remember that setting up a secure streaming server (like Kathleen described) is not easy. It requires IT expertise that many libraries may not have access to.
01:12:22 rhonda rosen: I wish there was a company like Swank that would be dedicated to world cinema....
01:12:35 lorraine wochna: very true, IT expertise and $$$$
01:14:04 Stephen Harris: Is there a Digital Lending Rights Scheme that compensates creators for their loss of income when libraries distribute their work?
01:14:10 Vladimir Kuparinen: Our draft model for remuneration autors in USA via Finland's volunteers scanning books FOR PEIVATE USE, aka person-to-person (Peer-to-Peer). It's legally approved by our Finnish Copyright Agence https://bit.ly/oeBook4IA1pager https://bit.ly/oeBookTONstatement
01:16:58 Vladimir Kuparinen: Hi Chris, I'm sorry. I don't want to promote my service. But to offer a solution scheme. "My service" is not available for USA yet.
01:17:17 Caroline Walters: https://www.ala.org/rt/vrt/aboutvrt/aboutvrt
01:18:44 lorraine wochna: not the you all have time, but The D-Word is online gig with filmmakers. They too have been having these conversations. Asking librarians how they buy films, how to get their work out there. Very interesting.
01:18:48 Jennie Rose Halperin: @Stephen – It’s not a given to consider library lending “loss of income.” In most studies, it’s been found that library lending actually means more sales, particularly for smaller or independent filmmakers who otherwise might not have the commercial viability to be streamed or even (in the old days,) bought by a video store.
01:19:52 Theresa Arndt: Importance of documentaries is a given. But there is also a desire to teach works from commercial creative works - TV series, feature films, from around the world, if not on Swank or Kanopy this can be very difficult for a library to provide institutional streaming. Disney, e.g., has a lot of content locked up, Amazon also, and many others, that are not looking at a public good mission.
01:20:01 Danette Pachtner: PBS is not all freely available -- Passport is $5 per month.
01:22:47 Alisdair MacRae: Arrived to this presentation late, and this might have been addressed, would NFTs have a role for compensating content creators (on an on-going, and less centralized basis)?
01:25:01 Jennie Rose Halperin: Point of View, American Documentary on PBS
01:25:11 Jennie Rose Halperin: ^^ @David Vassar
01:25:13 rhonda rosen: a $150. access to a semester of film is less than a textbook these days!
01:26:04 lorraine wochna: This is a great start!!! hearing all the players
01:26:41 lorraine wochna: @Chris thx
01:26:46 David Vassar: Thanks re "POV"--will take a look.
01:26:48 Ally Flynn: Agree 100%, Courtney!
01:27:54 lorraine wochna: ANYTIME!!!!
01:29:27 Theresa Arndt: We finally have an actual librarian as Librarian of Congress - they also oversee Copyright. We need more educationally friendly copyright laws.
01:29:30 lorraine wochna: at my place my film budget is paying for all the streaming, almost all. As more go online, i believe libraries could get more $$$ from other areas of the university/community. just in terms of getting more $$$.
01:30:02 Linda Fairtile: Lorraine, yes.
01:30:09 lorraine wochna: YES!! black archive, i think. Also Film For Action - there are quite a bit
01:30:14 Mike Mashon: https://blackfilmarchive.com/
01:30:21 Meg Eastwood: I will say as a science librarian that I often think that many administrators and faculty members don't realize just how much we pay for science resources, so we're trying to get out of the NDA agreements with publishers that prevent us from telling our faculty members just how much we pay for our science & technical journal collections! It's astounding, really, how much we pay...
01:30:47 Theresa Arndt: Many libraries contribute financially to open access publication - I certainly don't expect it to be FREE but cost has to be reasonable, sustainable for libraries.
01:32:17 Theresa Arndt: Unfortunately Black Film Archive doesn't consistently include full streaming. There seem to be mostly just links to clips and trailers (on YouTube), some where the full streaming is available, and some for which it just says "Video unavailable: This video contains content from [name of copyright holder], who has blocked it on copyright grounds".
01:32:23 Meg Eastwood: Yes, there are some very encouraging OA models like subscribe to open! I'm very fond of the SCOPE3 model from particle physics for open access...
01:32:59 Vladimir Kuparinen: The gov't of Finland last month approved the law that author receives royalty (0,26 euro in 2021) from each eBook borrowed from a library equal to paper book's royalty. Video streaming (a creative work's copying for a private use) is technically same as eBook copying. Licensing model is robbing people.
01:36:46 lorraine wochna: define NFT?
01:36:59 lorraine wochna: oh my!!!!
01:38:05 lorraine wochna: thank you — very interesting idea…
01:39:12 Jody Bailey: Kathleen, it might be worth looking at the Model Publishing Contract for Digital Scholarship (it's CC licensed so can be freely reused). https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/handle/2027.42/138828
01:39:19 Sol Lopez: The Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries and the Univ of Colorado Denver Auraria Library implemented interlibrary loan pilot program of streaming video with some top streaming services like Swank and AVON. This program had students and accessibility in mind and I wonder if there have been other institutions that have worked with streaming vendors in similar ways? Link: https://coalliance.org/special-projects AND https://coalliance.org/news/sillvr-pilot-streaming-video-resource-sharing
01:39:44 lorraine wochna: agree Rick.
01:40:08 Vladimir Kuparinen: In Britain they provide royalty from each music work / song stream anywhere, if a music creator registers in this service, Creative Passport https://www.creativepassport.net/
01:40:31 lorraine wochna: one more: videotrust.org - org of librarians looking at media issues
01:42:10 Emilie Algenio: https://www.videotrust.org/
01:42:14 lorraine wochna: that is very true.
01:42:32 lorraine wochna: i know there are some studies being done on streaming via Ithaka S&R.
01:43:18 Peter Shirts: Perhaps part of the solution would be inviting creators to voluntarily move their works into the public domain earlier than indicated in law; maybe after 30-50 years. It would require a lot of education to show that it would be better for their legacy and not necessarily affect their bottom line.
01:43:43 Nancy Friedland: I am involved with a group that is looking for new models with Swank and Kanopy - we are looking for better pricing and resource sharing. The group is affiliated with what is known as Ivy Plus.
01:45:34 Beth Royall: Thank you to the panelists and the moderator.
01:45:40 lorraine wochna: you all have been amazing. there are just never ending issues — and knowing all the perspectives. You all offered amazing ideas and thoughts. thank you for your valuable time.
01:45:48 sylvia roberts: Excellent session! Thanks for the inspiring and hopeful discussion!
01:45:54 Patrick Nagle: Thank you all...very cool!
01:45:56 Alisdair MacRae: Thank you, please forward link to recording when available!
01:45:58 Linda Fairtile: Thank you, everyone!
01:46:18 Valerie Rioux: thank you so much for this panel; it is so validating to hear your voices and the struggles we share. Best wishes from Montreal. :-)
01:46:20 Stephen Harris: Thanks everyone! Very informative.
01:46:33 Robin Sinn: Thanks for this! Timely.
01:46:36 lorraine wochna: and thank you Jennie!
01:46:46 Gary MacFadden: Thank you. I hope the chat window will be available with the recording; many good resources listed
01:46:50 Rick Prelinger: Thanks for listening, everyone!
01:46:57 Jennie Rose Halperin: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/celebration-of-sound-public-domain-day-virtual-celebration-tickets-223634836817
01:46:58 Caroline Walters: Thank you for this excellent program. Such an important issue.
01:47:05 Peter Kaufman: Fascinating - thank you!!
01:47:06 Bret McCandless: Thank you all! Looking forward to Public Domain Day!
01:47:08 Elizabeth Mantz: Thanks so much for this presentation. Well done. Best wishes from London Ontario
01:47:12 Meg Eastwood: A big thank you to all the speakers and organizers for a thought-provoking panel!
01:47:36 Jody Bailey: Thanks -- great panel!
01:47:40 Eden Murray-Black: Thank you
01:47:48 Ally Flynn: Thank you, this has been informative